Katia ([info]iamkatia) wrote,
@ 2007-12-11 09:24:00
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Behind the cut is a transcript of my conversation with homeless youth, Ghost (aged 21),
on the subject of dumpster-diving which he is well known for amongst the homeless
street youth in Seattle.





"I’m pretty sure I started about 6-7 years ago, maybe earlier. When I was younger my dad used to dumpster-dive to get my Christmas presents. He’d take me to the dumpsters – like behind Value Village - and just grab a bunch of stuff and say, “Hey, this is Christmas!” So I started out really early knowing what dumpster-diving was and what dumpsters were good and what dumpsters weren’t. And as I got older, being out on the streets, I started going to the college fraternities and stuff, just out of curiosity, at the end of the semesters, and I’d come out with bags and bags of laptops and stuff. People get rid of them. It’s the most amazing thing. They just get them as gifts and they use it for 2 days and they don’t like it no more or it’s obsolete so they just get rid of it. So dumpster-diving is great at the end of semesters or at the end of the holiday season or during spring cleaning. It’s really great.

Like with me, I’ve just got this spur-of-the-moment look where I’ll just open up a trash can and find the most amazing things. Like something will have a hole in it and that’s god-awful nowadays because it just makes you look so tacky. Like those knee-high boots that I have, I just jumped in a Rite-Aid garbage looking for random food and stuff co’s they throw away anything expired over a day and I jumped in the garbage can and I found the boots. They were just sitting there – new boots – all they had was one hole in ‘em and that was it.

Where the main shopping areas are, yea, I’ll go through there. A lot of the businesses, once they get things returned, they just throw them away. I’ve went off and found boxes of like $2500.00 worth of Palm Pilots. Like full boxes of them. Like I’m not talking about little tiny boxes, like one, I’m talking where they were all tore out of their boxes and thrown in a giant storage box.

Yea, there’s a lot of money in a lot of that stuff out there. A lot of times I’d go and sell things at the flea markets or the barter fairs or I’d go just bartering around. Like I’d barter the stuff for what I need. Like ‘I got what you want and you got what I need’ kind of thing.

Very recently, me and Thirteen were dumpster-diving in a garbage by the Greyhound station. We were throwing around bags and going through them. That’s actually one of the better ones co’s like 30 days later they throw away everything in the lockers. And you can get a whole bunch of new packs and a whole bunch of new clothes. And we were throwing around bags and he ended up catching me in the head with a bag and busted my head open. I still got the scar on my head right there. I got my head cracked open and I was pouring blood everywhere. There’s still a blood trail from the greyhound station all the way up to Freeway Pk.

There was a time that I was walking down by the piers and I was really hungry so I ended up dumpster-diving for food and I found this big bag and I’m wondering why there’s this big bag in another bag and I pulled it out and it was this whole wedding platter of meat and cheese and fruit and vegetables. It was just unbelievable. I was just about to give up. I had only found a half-eaten bag of chips and a piece of sandwich and was thinking I’m not going to get much, then I found that.

The pack that I have now - the big black pack that I usually carry around – I found that in the garbage along with a bunch of clothes. It’s easier to get clothes from there [the dumpsters] than it is to get them from the donations places co’s they don’t really give you good clothes at all. They give you what’s left of what the thrift stores can’t sell.

But downtown a lot of the stores will lock their garbage cans unfortunately. They either lock them or they have them in their garages so you can’t really get down there co’s they don’t allow public access. It’s really unfortunate co’s it makes it a lot harder to get things you need. Especially for me, being a barterer, it’s harder for me to get a lot of the tools they need.

Yea, the things you find, it’s like currency out here. It’s a way of survival. This guy needs a pack and I may want something, he may have something that I really need. It’s a profit set. You know we [homeless street kids] don’t have that much money and the money we use, a lot of it is used for addictions or for food or for some kind of entertainment co’s out here there ain’t really much entertainment but sitting on a corner with a sign or sitting up in a park. So you got what you got. A lot of things we got here we bartered off so we’d have something different, so you don’t always have the same clothes or the same stuff.

You gotta do what you gotta do in this place. Not everybody has the hand-outs -not all these shelters and not all these food banks give you the right stuff. A lot of them give you expired stuff. I’d rather go to a Pizza Hut dumpster and pull out a full pizza and be able to eat that and be full than go to a food bank and get some meager portion and be hungry later. That used to be one of my favorite places to go dumpster-diving is at the pizza shops co’s at the end of the day they throw out everything that people ordered and don’t pick up or un-order. So I’d go up and get 10-15 pizzas and be able to feed myself for the next couple days.

My dad used to do it. My mom used to do it. A lot of my dad’s friends used to do it. It kind of brought me into it. When it started out, it was fun. Then it got addicting. Then it became a compulsion. Now every time I walk by a garbage can I have to look inside it. Every garbage can, I go through. Every place I walk I’ll go through them. I’ve got umpteen pairs of shoes at my squat and clothes that I don’t wear and umpteen blankets that people use and leave.

I found a book of old coins in this dumpster in Portland, OR. It was worth like 900 bucks. It was all old U.S. currency taken from people who were forging money so it was like the forgery of the money and so it was worth even more. Like it had forged pennies from 1920, 1910. I sold it for $900.00 to a coin shop.

At a mental institution I found a bunch of old institution records from the 1800’s. There were photographs and documents though a lot of it got destroyed co’s I had a storage unit and everything got wet and was ruined. Destroyed.

Now they’ve got these new compactors, these new trash compactors that they’re starting to replace the old garbage cans with. It actually compacts all the trash. It’s a new style of garbage can. I’ve seen a couple of them now. It’s amazing. People throw away so much stuff and all of it is going to waste.

I do this with no shame. I’ve been doing this a lot of years. A lot of people look at it as embarrassing to go through another person’s trash, like it’s demeaning on the ego. But I and others do this knowing that every trash bag has a treasure in it and there’s going to be something that someone is going to need or want. That’s the way I look at it. I’ll carry around a bag of useless items to me but I know when I open that bag someone’s going to see something and say, “Oh, I need that!” And I’ll ask them what they got that I need.

There are kids out here, not even street kids, just kids that have problems at their houses or they’re just poor, they can use these things that are just going to waste. I mean there are places out here that help these kids but they don’t help them all. They can’t help them all. I don’t understand why people are throwing away things that can be used, especially when they’re new and still in the box."



Ghost and Purple











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[info]nerak_g
2007-12-11 05:51 pm UTC (link)
Thank you, Katia!

This is the best piece about what the other side of the adverts this time of year really mean.

Amazing, as always.

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[info]iamkatia
2007-12-11 06:47 pm UTC (link)

thanks so much, karen. you always 'get it'.

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[info]rivermilk
2007-12-11 06:43 pm UTC (link)
My mother and I spent many months in my youth searching for our suppers this way. She'd dress me in boots and gloves and we'd go dumpster diving behind Wal-Mart; it was amazing how many baked goods they pitched daily. But when you haven't eaten in two or three days and you discover a decent-sized cake in the trash, it's like salvation.
Thank you for sharing these people, their honesty and fortitude.
Really. Thank you.

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[info]iamkatia
2007-12-11 06:47 pm UTC (link)

wow, your comment brought tears to my eyes.

this is why i posted this.
exactly why.
thank you.

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[info]evgenytumanov
2007-12-11 06:55 pm UTC (link)
Hello from Russia!

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[info]iamkatia
2007-12-11 06:56 pm UTC (link)

haha, you'd fit right in with the kids here.

from seattle,
hello! :))

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[info]flameaside
2007-12-11 07:09 pm UTC (link)
'...every trash bag has a treasure in it...' We need to remember.
Thank you!

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[info]toddpage
2007-12-11 07:13 pm UTC (link)
Wow. This is an amazing and eye opening piece of work. thanks so much for sharing.

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[info]katylin
2007-12-11 08:08 pm UTC (link)

I love this. I also appreciate the commentary. I have been on both sides. I still dive. I took home about 100 books from a local thrift store that was tossing them before a closing sale. Last year I took home a 20 foot live green Christmas wreath from Greek lane that had been discarded.
I have to say, I love the flap, the tail, and the double docks the most. Someone needs to get ghost into clothing design. I am not being in the least sarcastic.
I love S.F. gutter punk style, and he has it going on.
Be well.
Merry Christmas. ~always

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[info]fraydecat
2007-12-11 08:09 pm UTC (link)
Hello, mama. What a cutie. Yeah, I have known several people here in Atlanta that will do this. It's disgusting how wasteful we all are. I wish more people would wake up to what they are consuming and wasting, so we could use less and help others more. I hope you are well. I am always here reading your posts and looking at your lovely photos. Peace...

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[info]minoritario
2007-12-11 08:16 pm UTC (link)
It's beautiful that people like him exist. He make us remember that we go through our lives not valuing what we have. Especially at this christmas time. Thanks

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[info]gorighttrough
2007-12-11 09:29 pm UTC (link)
oh katia
oh
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i can't speak
...
let me just pin-point one sentence from the text:
"I don’t understand why people are throwing away things that can be used, especially when they’re new and still in the box"
i'm so glad you posted this...
and that you have channeled Ghost's spirit through this.
*

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[info]ossarium
2007-12-11 10:25 pm UTC (link)
interesting story! even here in england people are quite wasteful and throw away a lot of useful things! i never was in the situation where i was homeless but when i first came to england i didn't really have that much money and would often have a look in skips to see if there was anything useful in there - i was looking more for technical stuff and odd bits though ... i got a really old sawing machine / an old heavy metal amplifier (not them little crappy plastic things) and a load of books (the only bible in my possession comes from a skip outside the local salvation army hall)and then there was obviously a whole collection of musical instruments i got out of skips - fire extinguishers / metal pipes / springs ...
when i moved a few years ago i had a pile of things i could not take with me so i just piled everything up in our front garden and people just came around and took things ... i had to fight to make sure they don't actually take the potted plants as well ;-)
now i am living in an area where most people probably wouldn't dream about picking anything out of a skip ... and i have to admit that though i still can't resist to look at skips while i walk past - i do not inspect them too closely and probably wouldn't take things anymore ... though having said that - only a few weeks ago i picked up an old computer as i was hoping to get spare parts for my old media computer

oh yeah one day a few years ago we were taking things down to the local rubbish dump and some lady threw a whole bag of books away - she had broken up with her boyfriend and they were his books ... she didn't mind me taking them - lots of terry pratchet books which i adored ;-)

love
me!

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[info]xaotica
2007-12-11 11:34 pm UTC (link)

i consider it totally ethical and awesome to dumpster dive for things that businesses/people are throwing away and are just going to waste. but dumpster diving things which people are donating to a charity is questionable, and so is dumpster diving things which people left behind at a greyhound station. if someone found my bag in a greyhound station dumpster, i would want them to call me so i could come get my stuff. if i found a backpack full of somebody's stuff and wallet, it's most likely stolen

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[info]zhenzhi
2007-12-12 12:03 am UTC (link)
that's beautiful katia, and very interesting. :-)

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[info]brendamom
2007-12-12 12:55 am UTC (link)
Even at my age, I am tempted to dumpster dive. Mostly, it is for art materials.
The view into the street culture was wonderful. In an adundant country, it is a shame that dumpster diving is a neccesity for some. In my town, one pizza place just lays out the unused, rejected (for whatever reason pizzas.). Anyone can pick one out from the stack.
Wouldn't it be great if stores just put out curbside boxes with FREE written on them?
Avoid the disease, danger, and stigma of the dumpster.
We have plenty. It would be easy to share.

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[info]odnoselchanin
2007-12-12 07:12 am UTC (link)
Capitalism

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[info]flyingshaman
2007-12-12 11:42 am UTC (link)
I don't know anything about how street life really is. It's something I thought might be cool at one point, but I'd never actually heard someone's story before.

I really appreciate hearing this. I'm shocked at how much we throw away. Part of me is shocked that people would choose to live that way, simply because it's different from the way I live. And by "that way" I mean simply another way from my own. It's a world that I hadn't really considered before.

This is like peeking into something that seems totally different from all that which I've explored before, but I think it could be really interesting.

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[info]uvaspina
2007-12-12 01:35 pm UTC (link)
I loved this post. it's eyes-opening in so many ways.
I'm a big supporter of bartering and it makes me ache when I think about how much we waste all the time

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[info]yepal
2007-12-14 10:08 pm UTC (link)
One of my friends went to a dumpster behind a big store where he found discarded packing materials. One day the people from the store came out and accused him of stealing their trash. Stealing trash! haha!!!

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[info]iamkatia
2007-12-16 09:46 pm UTC (link)

HAA! funny... thanks for the laugh, Age. :)

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[info]leighhyphenanne
2007-12-19 06:08 pm UTC (link)
I found you off the Seattle community. I just want to say thank you. I read this to myself; then my husband then out loud to my mother. We're all crying. I can't wait to move back to Seattle (10 days) I'd love to pitch in wherever I can. ♥ You are a blessing to these people. What a tremendous gift of love.

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[info]iamkatia
2007-12-19 06:15 pm UTC (link)

They are a blessing to me.


(you made me cry too.)

<3

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[info]leighhyphenanne
2007-12-19 06:20 pm UTC (link)
:) I'm still in Spokane through the 29th, but the 30th, I'll be back in Seattle. let me know what I can do to help...if anything. Just keep me in the loop.

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[info]iamkatia
2007-12-19 06:26 pm UTC (link)

will do, my dear. will do. :)

and thanks..

*

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[info]leighhyphenanne
2007-12-19 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Any time. I'm a nanny by day but I'm always looking for ways to make more impact. Also - ways to teach my kids that the world really extends beyond our homes.

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[info]mommacherry
2007-12-21 12:16 am UTC (link)
i forget how far ive come. how very thin the line is between then and now and how very close i was to there. ive read your blog before. youve read mine i found the blog about the kdis on seattle lj. it moved me. maybe woke up somethign that i needed.

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[info]iamkatia
2007-12-21 07:50 pm UTC (link)

it's nice when we wake up, yes?
thanks for your words here.
and your heart.

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[info]jadeejf
2007-12-21 06:23 am UTC (link)
Hey- I wanted to friend you on LJ- I've seen your posts here and there in [info]seattle and I really enjoy what you're doing with them. I shared a link to your blogspot blog with my church- we're a pretty small church plant, but a lot of the folks there work with the street kids up on capitol hill. Hope you don't mind the sharing, but if you ask me, I think it's important to help put faces to the stories. Anyway, do you mind if I friend you?

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[info]jadeejf
2007-12-21 06:47 am UTC (link)
P.S. Thank you for all the lovely photos- I just spent an hour going through your journal, and the photos and quotes are so lovely that they have made me stop feeling sorry for myself and blue, which is pretty awesome. Like your photos :)

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[info]iamkatia
2007-12-21 07:53 pm UTC (link)

Yes, of course, that's fine. Thanks for sharing.
And you're right.
We need to put faces and stories on these 'issues'.
Humanize.
Yes.

Thank you!

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[info]whitneys_corner
2007-12-21 06:48 am UTC (link)
Hello -

Thank you for bringing the color and spirit of your friends to the rally this week, including the subject of this post.

Bless you.

D.

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[info]iamkatia
2007-12-21 07:49 pm UTC (link)

Ahh, there you are, Doug!
Good to see you here.
I'll add you. :)

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[info]whitneys_corner
2007-12-21 11:37 pm UTC (link)
Thank you, I would add you but you have been there for quite some time already.

No doubt, our paths will cross again!

Doug

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[info]foolsgoldxo
2008-02-05 03:21 pm UTC (link)
After seeing the photo of Ghost and his pet rat I had to go back and see if there was anything else about Ghost. Found this. An excellent piece, thanks for sharing it.

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